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6j que j'ai commencé la cure et là j'ai une libido du futur , j'ai toujours était un chien de la casse mais là c'est insane ..

Je ne me rappelais pas avoir eu cet effet lors de mes précédentes cures mais là c'est vraiment flagrant ^^'

Après ça me parait un peu short niveau timing , car ça fait même pas une semaine que j'ai commencé cette cure , donc je sais pas si c'est dû aux produits ou non

En tout cas peu importe d'ou ça vient , j'ai une libido trop haute pour le coups là mdr
 
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En gros , d'habitude je pense au sexe quelques fois par jours , mais là ça me le fait vraiment +

Sachant que en temps normal dés que je finis un rapport , et que l'éjaculation vient , bah après j'ai une sensation de "dégout" de honte , fin je sais pas comment l'expliquer

Alors que là j'en redemande sans arrêt , et ce sentiment que j'ai citais plus haut n'apparait plus , depuis au moins aujourd'hui
 
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J'ai sûrement pas assez chercher ça fait un bout de temps que je m'étais pas baladé sur ton journal
 
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est-ce que c'est pertinent de mélanger du Deca avec de la testo?

C'est pas moi qui pose la question. moi j'y connais rien .
maintenant on préconise tout le temps une base de testo.. mais pas autrefois
Et apparemment il y avait moins d ES.
Ca paraît pertinent?
( c'est un peu long et c'est en anglais )
C est un article de Lance Atlas, ( je sais pas si c'est une référence je connais pas le milieu)



During the golden era of bodybuilding when bodybuilders like Arnold, Frank Zane, Robby Robinson, and Mike Mentzer etc. were building their physiques, bodybuilders typically used Deca as the injectable component of their steroid cycles. Bodybuilders in the golden era typically used DECA without testosterone in their cycles. Stacking an oral steroid like Dianabol alongside injectable DECA
was the standard muscle mass building cycle of choice for bodybuilders in the 70's and 80's. DECA was not widely known for producing progesterone and prolactin related side effects such as being unable to orgasm or get an erection until bodybuilders started combining it together with testosterone simultaneously.
DECA and testosterone mix very badly for the majority of bodybuilders. The Deca seems to sensitize the body to some of the female hormones that Testosterone turns into. At the same time, Testosterone seems to sensitize the body to some of the progesterone/prolactin related effects of Deca. Until the mid 80's there weren't effective estrogen blockers on the market and testosterone use was limited because of its propensity to turn into estrogen inside the body. During the golden era of bodybuilding, bodybuilders favored Deca over testosterone because they did not get estrogen related side effects or bloating from using Deca. In the golden era of bodybuilding Testosterone was known as a dirty drug with lots of estrogen side effects.
The Deca and Dbol stack with no injectable Testosterone was the most popular steroid cycle of the 1980's. The bodybuilders during that time were regulated by doctors, and steroids were not controlled substances. Nandrolone or Deca was one of the steroids that was widely prescribed for a number of reasons including; to assist with muscle gain and recovery from low bodyweight, malnourishment, severe burns, and joint repair. Somewhere along the lines, Nandrolone became misunderstood. I believe the reason for this is largely due to the prevalence of the usage of testosterone as a base for all steroid cycles (this phenomenon started in the early 2000s as a result of the proliferation of anabolic steroids knowledge on internet forums). The combination of nandrolone and testosterone started to produce side effects in many people, namely the famous DECA DICK. This is a bro-scientific term that describes the phenomenon of having a completely limp and unresponsive penis when combining Testosterone and Nandrolone. Combining Testosterone and Nandrolone together can raise estrogen, progesterone, and prolactin to high levels in some people, which leads to crippling sexual side effects. HOWEVER, what we have forgotten is that the use of Nandrolone WITHOUT testosterone as a base has been well researched and tolerated in humans. We also have extensive anecdotal reports from bodybuilders and doctors all through the 70s and 80s supporting this theory as well. The truth is that the use of Nandrolone has been shown to have great benefits to muscle gain and joint health with minimal side effects if the person administering it uses solely Nandrolone.
Here are a few old-school champions that we know used Nandrolone without Testosterone as they have openly admitted to it and spoken about it.
ROBBY ROBINSON – Robby Robinson believes that his use of solely Deca-Durabolin with NO test (he claims to have never tried testosterone ever) is the reason why he still has high testosterone levels off cycle now at over 70 years old.
There is absolutely no scientific evidence to back up this claim but it still stands that Robby says he only used Deca-Durabolin, had a great physique, and lived until old age. He still goes to Gold’s Venice and looks amazing today. Robby Robinson says he used Nandrolone in the range of 300mg a week.
MIKE MENTZER – Mike Mentzer is known to have loved Nandrolone. His training partner Larry Pollack has stated that Mike and Larry used 900mg of Nandrolone phenylpropionate a week, 300mg Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and supplemented that with 0 testosterone. This was Mike Mentzer’s preferred steroid stack and caused physique changes overnight. He was likely lying about the dosage. I'd multiply what Larry Pollack said about the 300mg 3x per week to 900mg 3x per week to get closer to what Mentzer was actually taking.
DANNY PADILLA – Danny Padilla took 400mg Deca-Durabolin a day for a total weekly dosage of 2,800mg nandrolone per week and achieved amazing condition on that stack alone.
My experience with Nandrolone combined with zero Testosterone has been this; no erectile dysfunction at all, pumped up muscles due to increased nitrogen retention and “the look” associated with anabolic steroid use. No hair loss (although I Lance Atlas am very susceptible to hair loss), no acne or skin problems. Nandrolone affected me very little on the androgenic side and mostly just made my muscles bigger and made me stronger.
Nandrolone historically has paired well with Dianabol, Turinabol, Winstrol, and Primobolan. Typical Nandrolone dosages range from 300mg-900mg per week when stacking with an oral like Dianabol or Winstrol. If you choose to use Testosterone together with Nandrolone, it is a process of trial and error. The common myth that an individual administering both hormones should use Testosterone in a 2:1 ratio with Nandrolone has no scientific backing. One doesn’t necessarily have to use more Testosterone than Nandrolone, there is no ratio that can be prescribed to limit side effects as combining these drugs in muscle building dosages has never been studied. It’s all up to personal experimentation with trial and error. The most important factor in this combination is controlling estrogen related side effects...and the only way to do that is with blood tests. Consult with a
doctor to help manage estrogen or combine Test and Nandrolone at your own risk.
In studies 300mg Nandrolone has been shown to increase muscle at a comparable rate to 300mg Testosterone, so I would regulate Nandrolone dosages similarly to those of Testosterone if choosing to use the hormone independently.
WARNING: Nandrolone has been linked to increases in atherosclerosis, as well as heart damage. Nandrolone abuse has also been linked with hypogonadism, depression, and anxiety. The mechanisms that contribute to this seem to be like those of testosterone and happen dose-dependently and over time.


Lance Atlas
insights on Deca/Nandrolone.
 
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Altur à dit:
est-ce que c'est pertinent de mélanger du Deca avec de la testo?

C'est pas moi qui pose la question. moi j'y connais rien .
maintenant on préconise tout le temps une base de testo.. mais pas autrefois
Et apparemment il y avait moins d ES.
Ca paraît pertinent?
( c'est un peu long et c'est en anglais )
C est un article de Lance Atlas, ( je sais pas si c'est une référence je connais pas le milieu)



During the golden era of bodybuilding when bodybuilders like Arnold, Frank Zane, Robby Robinson, and Mike Mentzer etc. were building their physiques, bodybuilders typically used Deca as the injectable component of their steroid cycles. Bodybuilders in the golden era typically used DECA without testosterone in their cycles. Stacking an oral steroid like Dianabol alongside injectable DECA
was the standard muscle mass building cycle of choice for bodybuilders in the 70's and 80's. DECA was not widely known for producing progesterone and prolactin related side effects such as being unable to orgasm or get an erection until bodybuilders started combining it together with testosterone simultaneously.
DECA and testosterone mix very badly for the majority of bodybuilders. The Deca seems to sensitize the body to some of the female hormones that Testosterone turns into. At the same time, Testosterone seems to sensitize the body to some of the progesterone/prolactin related effects of Deca. Until the mid 80's there weren't effective estrogen blockers on the market and testosterone use was limited because of its propensity to turn into estrogen inside the body. During the golden era of bodybuilding, bodybuilders favored Deca over testosterone because they did not get estrogen related side effects or bloating from using Deca. In the golden era of bodybuilding Testosterone was known as a dirty drug with lots of estrogen side effects.
The Deca and Dbol stack with no injectable Testosterone was the most popular steroid cycle of the 1980's. The bodybuilders during that time were regulated by doctors, and steroids were not controlled substances. Nandrolone or Deca was one of the steroids that was widely prescribed for a number of reasons including; to assist with muscle gain and recovery from low bodyweight, malnourishment, severe burns, and joint repair. Somewhere along the lines, Nandrolone became misunderstood. I believe the reason for this is largely due to the prevalence of the usage of testosterone as a base for all steroid cycles (this phenomenon started in the early 2000s as a result of the proliferation of anabolic steroids knowledge on internet forums). The combination of nandrolone and testosterone started to produce side effects in many people, namely the famous DECA DICK. This is a bro-scientific term that describes the phenomenon of having a completely limp and unresponsive penis when combining Testosterone and Nandrolone. Combining Testosterone and Nandrolone together can raise estrogen, progesterone, and prolactin to high levels in some people, which leads to crippling sexual side effects. HOWEVER, what we have forgotten is that the use of Nandrolone WITHOUT testosterone as a base has been well researched and tolerated in humans. We also have extensive anecdotal reports from bodybuilders and doctors all through the 70s and 80s supporting this theory as well. The truth is that the use of Nandrolone has been shown to have great benefits to muscle gain and joint health with minimal side effects if the person administering it uses solely Nandrolone.
Here are a few old-school champions that we know used Nandrolone without Testosterone as they have openly admitted to it and spoken about it.
ROBBY ROBINSON – Robby Robinson believes that his use of solely Deca-Durabolin with NO test (he claims to have never tried testosterone ever) is the reason why he still has high testosterone levels off cycle now at over 70 years old.
There is absolutely no scientific evidence to back up this claim but it still stands that Robby says he only used Deca-Durabolin, had a great physique, and lived until old age. He still goes to Gold’s Venice and looks amazing today. Robby Robinson says he used Nandrolone in the range of 300mg a week.
MIKE MENTZER – Mike Mentzer is known to have loved Nandrolone. His training partner Larry Pollack has stated that Mike and Larry used 900mg of Nandrolone phenylpropionate a week, 300mg Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and supplemented that with 0 testosterone. This was Mike Mentzer’s preferred steroid stack and caused physique changes overnight. He was likely lying about the dosage. I'd multiply what Larry Pollack said about the 300mg 3x per week to 900mg 3x per week to get closer to what Mentzer was actually taking.
DANNY PADILLA – Danny Padilla took 400mg Deca-Durabolin a day for a total weekly dosage of 2,800mg nandrolone per week and achieved amazing condition on that stack alone.
My experience with Nandrolone combined with zero Testosterone has been this; no erectile dysfunction at all, pumped up muscles due to increased nitrogen retention and “the look” associated with anabolic steroid use. No hair loss (although I Lance Atlas am very susceptible to hair loss), no acne or skin problems. Nandrolone affected me very little on the androgenic side and mostly just made my muscles bigger and made me stronger.
Nandrolone historically has paired well with Dianabol, Turinabol, Winstrol, and Primobolan. Typical Nandrolone dosages range from 300mg-900mg per week when stacking with an oral like Dianabol or Winstrol. If you choose to use Testosterone together with Nandrolone, it is a process of trial and error. The common myth that an individual administering both hormones should use Testosterone in a 2:1 ratio with Nandrolone has no scientific backing. One doesn’t necessarily have to use more Testosterone than Nandrolone, there is no ratio that can be prescribed to limit side effects as combining these drugs in muscle building dosages has never been studied. It’s all up to personal experimentation with trial and error. The most important factor in this combination is controlling estrogen related side effects...and the only way to do that is with blood tests. Consult with a
doctor to help manage estrogen or combine Test and Nandrolone at your own risk.
In studies 300mg Nandrolone has been shown to increase muscle at a comparable rate to 300mg Testosterone, so I would regulate Nandrolone dosages similarly to those of Testosterone if choosing to use the hormone independently.
WARNING: Nandrolone has been linked to increases in atherosclerosis, as well as heart damage. Nandrolone abuse has also been linked with hypogonadism, depression, and anxiety. The mechanisms that contribute to this seem to be like those of testosterone and happen dose-dependently and over time.


Lance Atlas
insights on Deca/Nandrolone.
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